Boundless Labs

@nolan_evans Hi mate, I have just started using Bubble and came across this post. Looks very interesting. Can you clarify what you mean by 'Boundless app you make is a Single Page App'?

Hi @ace_bevacqua A single page app is a javascript application - typically built with React, Ember, or Angular where the page you see is all rendered by javascript (typically clientside). Facebook, Gmail, Netflix, Trello are all single page apps. There are some advantages and disadvantages to single page apps. Typical Pro's: - Super snappy once the page has loaded (think instant page loads on link clicking, you can see this for example on https://www.mymoji.co, compare this to a typical wordpress site) - You can build interactions (live updating list, realtime filtering) that would be a lot more difficult in a standard html app Typical Con's: - Harder to support SEO as the page is rendered on the client side vs server side (we take care of this for you with Boundless) - Javascript has to be enabled on the client side Single page apps are typically made by engineers as there are very few web app builders that can generate a single page app. I am excited about what possibilities this will open up for web apps built with Boundless.

Hi @devolutionist - So there are a few thing that set us apart: 1. Our forms do not go into the void - they instead are easily referenced allowing you to pull your data back out. This enables you to do quite a bit more than Webflow, Wordpress, Airtable, etc. When pulling data back out you can use excel like formula's to perform interesting operations on your data, here is a gif of me calculating the number of referrals on our viral lead site template: You can see the result here: https://fr3em258qxdwp3am4zvb7s3g... 2. We focus on generating a consistent theme for your site via our styles page. We generate a style guide (https://d3j9pdwk635p6l.cloudfron...) for every app which allows you to take our vanilla theme and turn it into a pixel perfect matching of your designs. We've been able to rebuild SquareSpace themes using our style guide editor. This approach allows you to theme a site in a way that promotes re-use so you do it once, and then your sites building blocks match the theme. In this way I think we are much better than Bubble. 3. Every Boundless app comes with a concept of users out of the box so you can build sites that are powered by user generated content vs static content the creator creates. 4. On the technology side I think our technical foundation is just better. We generate a single page app that is SEO friendly and cache the heck of out it so you have a super fast site. What this means for a site built with Boundless clicking a link doesn't trigger a full page redraw or a request to the server - it instead has all the information it needs to start painting the new page immediately.

Hi @caseyfulgenzi Thanks for all the feedback! 1. You are correct that we aren't doing a good enough job at highlighting what the tool can do, will work at improving this over the coming weeks. 2. I hear you that the pricing can be intimidating and a deterrent especially given point #1 we will also be improving this. With regards to #1 wanted to share some examples to showcase what Boundless can do: The Viral lead Site (Viewable here https://hxgc8jsqxebpx5drr4axw8bc...) This is one of our template apps a viral lead flow site that you can create with one click from https://app.boundlesslabs.com/ap... showcases how the data in our forms is re-usable throughout your site. This is using a formula to perform a count on the fly of how many other customers have been referred by this customer. This same page contains a visual variant that displays differently if you have invited one or zero users. Here's a gif showing off how that behavior is setup: As the creator of the site your data lives in a real database, no smoke and mirrors an engineer would build this database the same way that Boundless does From the above data this is what the n@n.com user will see when they see their thanks page The Visor site https://waitlist.visor.com/welcome is a version of this app. The custom theming that was applied to it was super easy to do with our style editor, and allowed the theme to be created once and used throughout. They have also used some more advanced features including a unique email constraint. These are things that you can't do with SquareSpace, Wordpress, Carrd, or Webflow. Thanks again, appreciate your feedback.

@joelrunyon Hi Joel, we have csv based import on our near term roadmap. Yes we are able to support tables that reference one another. This screenshot is an example of what one would see with the viral lead site template: The two rows are the two people who signed up, you can see the top row was referred by the bottom row, if you mouse over an associated record you get a summary card for that record and can click view record to drill into it.

@nolan_evans 1) eta on CSV? That's sort of a deal-breaker for me 2) Can one cell reference multiple tables? If so - can those be imported as well? That's something on WebFlow they own't let you do that drives me crazy

@joelrunyon With regards to #2 we can reference both multiple tables (via multiple association columns) and multiple rows (via checking the box in the following screenshot) With regards to #1 I should be able to get workable CSV imports for you by next week - would be happy to discuss further over email: nolan[at]boundlesslabs.com

Hi @mrdobelina Appreciate the feedback on the pricing - I think our $50 a month price point is comparable to higher tier SquareSpace plans and we offer a lot more functionality than they are able to offer. I can appreciate that the $500 a month is high for an individual - this is intended to be our small business/startup pricing tier. Here are some more examples: Our site: https://www.boundlesslabs.com Our help site (can you tell we like dogfooding?): https://help.builtwithboundless.... One of our most recent customer launches is a viral lead flow site: https://waitlist.visor.com/welcome

@frassmith Thanks for the feedback on the pricing being a deterrent for you. Will look at improving this.

@nolan_evans While the comments re: pricing make a lot of sense, I don't see anything wrong with pricing high out of the gate. These types of platforms are useful for the no-code ecosystem, and using the funding from early adopters will help make Boundless a going concern. That said, at $50/month, I would want the option to remove your branding from my app.

@imchrisdavis Thanks for the feedback, fair point on the $50 price point with branding.