WeNomad

@emma_lilly_molla @alban12 Thank you!

@camwoodsum Really nice!! Congrats.

@victoria_wu thank you! :)

@xfarrarons thanks Xavi!

@camwoodsum congrats! I lived abroad (not working but still went to a lot of digital nomad spots) for about 3 years and am so excited to see more content like this on the Internet!

@naz_avo1 Hey Naz! Great question. The short answer is: No fabricated information, no paywall, more accurate data, more detailed guides, and more reviews. I covered this a bit in my intro post (which I'll paste in here) but I'll elaborate a bit more: "WeNomad was created out of extreme frustration with the unreliable and sometimes fabricated information on the leading site in the "city guides for remote workers" space. How We Compare To Other Sites: There are roughly two types of websites in the digital nomad city guide space: 1. The leading site which is written by robots with almost no human input and extremely limited QA / fact-checking of the information 2. Long, blog post style guides with limited data, and lots of anecdotal information from the writer We believe that the best city guides are a combination of being extremely data-driven, with lots of human-driven content from people who have lived in that specific place, and with an abundance of outbound links to expert-written articles on specific topics (i.e. best restaurants, coworking, female friendly, LGBTQ+ friendly in a specific city)." To elaborate a bit more: After traveling for the last 5+ years, I've just learned that I can't trust NomadList as a reliable source of information. It's so automation/engineer driven that a lot of the data ends up being wildly inaccurate and clearly isn't being QA'd by a human. One small example of this is that Vodafone (a cell phone carrier that doesn't operate in the United States) is listed as the best cell phone carrier for some U.S. cities. An example of purely fabricated information is the "reviews score" which controls the order of the cities on the homepage. It's deceptively displayed as a user review score but users can't actually rate cities. If you click on a city and look at the top right you can see this score and the fake number of reviews listed. The greater issue for me is that when a site is filled with fake and inaccurate information, it becomes hard to know what information can be trusted and what information can't be. And thus the whole site becomes pretty useless. My goal is to build a site that people can trust and rely on. If you have other questions/feedback/thoughts - would love to hear them!

@naz_avo1 @camwoodsum This answer sounds pretty enough but collecting the information manually and reaching the accurate information consistently will be difficult. I think it is important to make users feel that the information is correct and collected manually. Cause you say you built this for not trusting the robots. Great product anyway! Congrats!

@naz_avo1 @hey_fk Agreed! The team (tagged on the product) has been heads down working on this since about December and can attest to the complications and time involved with trying to consistently be accurate with all information. We believe it's a strong first version (from an accuracy standpoint) and the hope is that with feedback and more reviews from users we can continue to fine-tune and improve the accuracy of everything. Thanks for taking the time to check out the product! 🙏

@hugh_lagrotteria Thanks Hugh for the detailed compliments! Glad you like the site. Please let me know if you have any ideas/thoughts on areas for improvement. All credit to @weverson_mamedio on the UI :).

@weverson_mamedio @camwoodsum Sure thing, a couple initial thoughts — — Would be cool to include popular city-specific social pages on the site for people to explore. For NYC for example... @secret_nyc, @infatuation_nyc, etc... I find pages for specific cities to be excellent ways to get a feel for the city, get inspiration on what to do, ideas of where to eat, drink, etc.. — Would be cool if the main background image on the site changed every 5 seconds or so, to make the page feel more responsive, dynamic, etc... would also be fun to see more city shots. — Add a "Local Time" widget on each city's page. This may seem insignificant but for people thinking about moving there for work it'd be helpful to quickly see which cities are in which time zones. To this end, it could be cool to be able to filter for cities that are within ~3 hrs of your headquarter's timezone, for example. Happy to provide further/future feedback — feel free to reach out whenever!

Thanks for the compliment on the UI and for sharing these great ideas, @hugh_lagrotteria. Sharing some popular social pages for each city would be very nice. And the filter using time zones would be very useful too, I hope that we can implement all these soon. ;)

@weverson_mamedio @secret_nyc @infatuation_nyc @hugh_lagrotteria Thanks for all of this feedback Hugh! The local time is displayed but you have to click the show more button in the top ratings section. Perhaps we need to make this more visible...many thanks for your input here!

The crime & safety stat needs more work, I see a lot of wrong stars (too many stars) for some places which are not as safe as they appear on the website.

@jefawk Ayy, thanks for checking it out and for flagging that issue. Working on a fix. It looks like the continent filters aren't working at the moment...sorry about that. Update: Just fixed the bug with continents not working, thanks again for flagging this!

@jefawk Which places specifically are you seeing issues with? This is a difficult metric that people are always going to disagree with because people have wildly different first-hand experiences. We use third-party aggregated data and surveys to compile this information but our data is only an average and people will definitely have varying viewpoints.

@camwoodsum It's not necessarily people having different viewpoints, it's facts and statistics that show how safe places are (a combination of official country statistics + stats from renowned international institutions) Georgia, Bulgaria, Romania to name a few. Currently 20% of Georgia's internationally recognized territory is under Russian military occupation. In 2008 they got invaded. Georgia has 5 ⭐ / 5 in Crime & Safety. Bulgaria also has big corruption problems especially for foreigners. For Bucharest (i'm living there): "Bucharest has a low crime rate and is generally a safe city; however, take standard precautions to avoid petty theft and pickpocketing." - no this is a joke, it doesn't have a low crime rate at all. This really makes me wonder what 3rd party data do you use for these stats? Either way you might wanna look into much better alternatives.

@jefawk Thanks for sharing your viewpoints. I agree with your first point, that's why we primarily rely on third-party data and statistics. It's hard to have a direct debate on these different locations because our decisions are primarily based upon data and the feedback you've shared is primarily anecdotal. Not trying to be argumentative but I do want to provide some context. I'll definitely pass your criticisms along to our team and we'll review the ratings of these places more in-depth. 1. To clarify, our crime/safety rating is for the city of Tbilisi, not the entire country of Georgia. 2. Thanks for sharing about Bulgaria will add this information to the site. 3. Low crime/high crime is relative to other cities. Perhaps our rating is slightly too high but it seems like the general sentiment and stats both support it being a pretty safe city: https://www.quora.com/What-is-th... I hope that I'm not being too argumentative here. I do genuinely appreciate you taking the time to review the site and share some areas for improvement. We'll definitely do a more in-depth review of these three cities.

@gorillaflowtech If NomadList worked the way it was supposed to then I wouldn't have made this. The homepage design and concept are very similar, but the data, approach, and overall philosophies are very different.

@phil_schwengel glad you like the site! Thanks for that feedback, will definitely add it to our list of future iterations.