Italy has banned ChatGPT, could this be a sign of things to come?
Aaron O'Leary
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Italy has become the first western country to ban ChatGPT. The Government has cited privacy concerns as a reason for the ban.
Could this be a sign for things to come, not just for ChatGPT but AI as a whole?
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Ryan Hoover@rrhoover
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It's going to get very messy, especially during the US 2024 election. Hold on.
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Can't they just use a VPN?
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Privacy is not the real reason.
If y'all keep making fun of their food, yes it going to get banned.
Asking GPT - Pineapple on pizza recipes, Pasta on pizza recipes.
That triggered Italian government and now they are banning it 🤣
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@pradeeb28 😂😂😂
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Oh, absolutely. And we will fight about AI for decades to come. Some will use fear as a way to gatekeep, others will leverage it against their opponents using limited understanding of the general public of what it is and how it works. We made climate change controversial, I won’t be surprised if attempts to regulate or deregulate AI will cause wars or violent protests at least.
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@kay_larina I hope you are not right about about the violence aspect, but it certainly is a hot issue because it is a new and powerful machine that can be used in many ways - good and bad alike.
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@stephen_smith67 oh, I hope I'm not right too :)
But a lot of people have been polarised by even less controversial things, AI just has too much room for misunderstanding, speculations and conspiracies.
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Governments might come up with some regulations around AI, since there's a fear of job loss.
They stopped the chatbot, not APIs. I see huge marketing there to sell chatbots.
MeetGeek
@naveed_rehman true. I’m Italian and I run ChatGPT locally on my Mac using OpenAI API
But the majority of the people who want to use ChatGPT are using VPNs
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I’m Italian, and things are getting out of hand.
It was done for precaution, because APPARENTLY ChatGPT was storing more data than they should, and that would be against GDPR.
The amount they should have to pay if confirmed (4% of their annual revenue, or 20M€) is the standard for GDPR violation
But apparently the person in charge who took this decision also signed the open letter that was asking to pause AI development (the one signed by Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak and many others)
So people are saying that ChatGPT was stopped not because of privacy, but because of fear
Fun fact, you can still use OpenAI products.
People started using VPNs to access ChatGPT
I run it locally on my Mac using a local software, connected to the OpenAI API
Another fun fact is that I have a single account to access OpenAI services (ChatGPT, dev dashboard, Dall-E), so I can assume they use SSO. If that is the case, why am I able to log in my dev dashboard, and not ChatGPT?
If the problem is data retention, it should be escalated to the whole infrastructure, while in the end only ChatGPT was affected (which is “just a SaaS” if we are considering the OpenAI ecosystem)
We’ll see, but the way this is being managed is ridiculous 😂
@marco_ceruti
I like your use of words, 'precaution' because the internet itself is not properly secured.
That just means more bandwidth for the free world.
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AI is awesome, ChatGPT is also a good product but every innovation needs serious regulations. Each ecosystem checks the situations. There should be an alternative worst scenario against the unexpected results.
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Italy banned Starbucks for years, not suprised
@nazli_celebi I’m seriously mind blown
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@nazli_celebi I can't say I don't support the Starbucks decision
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In my opinion, the development and use of GPT will undoubtedly be limited, but in different countries and regions, this boundary is different. In fact, I am also a liitle afraid of the rapid development of GPT, and the lack of corresponding institutions to regulate GPT will become very dangerous.
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@inc_gemoo you are right. It is not about banning, it is about understanding and providing a safe path forward. If we could learn how to do that with nuclear weapons, we can do the same with our transformers!
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@abid_unnisa and amazing. They kinda go together.
I don't think so !
This is indeed concerning
Hopefully other countries won't follow along
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Today I was at a lecture about potential AI threats and GPT chat. We also discussed how it can create pathogens. Some things should be regulated but I do not think that banning AI will completely solve the situation. It is like using the internet (you can use it for the good things as for the bad ones). Anyway, if there is a code, other people can replicate it in the secret. This trend is faster than our capability to stop it.
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@busmark_w_nika I agree! Its just a tool, and like all tools some need safety guards!
The Italian privacy guarantor did not ban ChatGPT. It simply posed the problem of the processing of personal data to OpenAI, asking for clarification within a few days. In response, OpenAI decided to suspend the service in Italy. Why did they do this? Perhaps because they were aware that they were using a lot of sometimes personal data indiscriminately?
I believe, it's a big step towards AI regulation. Honestly, regulation and innovation are sort of opposites where increasing regulation sort of slows down innovation and faster innovations happen when regulations are lower.
However with the slimmest probability that AI could be used for greater bad than good, I believe it's important for humanity to bring in these regulations
I don't think so
Just imagine, if you need to research some important topics and you don't have enough time!!!
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@maruf_workspace the company where my fiancé work decided to include ChatGPT in their workflow from Monday.
They expect her to produce 160 piece of content (~600 words articles each one) in the next week
It will be funny to see the whole team missing the deliverables by A LOT
@maruf_workspace @marco_ceruti That's insane. And have you ever seen AI generated content? It is full of inaccuracies. AI can't always determine the correct meaning of the data it pulls from various sources. Companies like the one she works for are in for a rude awakening. And some very embarrassing moments due to publishing wildly incorrect information. She may want to start looking for her next position.
@marco_ceruti @growmap here all are talking about AI generated content though there have a lot more to do with AI. AI can be the best tool for those who are experts already
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it's a sign, that new times are coming and Ai is becoming a par of our life