Whist is the first browser equipped with cloud tabs, which offload any website’s processing to the cloud. When heavy websites eat up RAM or slow down your computer, you can activate cloud tabs at the click of a button.
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The real-time streaming technology used for the cloud tabs is ming boggling. I don’t notice network latency at all! What wizardry did you leverage to make that possible?
Wow–this is next level!
I only use a couple of cloud-heavy web apps, but I already see the huge value it offers, before even trying! If there's an invite code, I would love to try it out!
Good luck y'all!
Any info already on the pricing structure?
Quick EDIT: the .dmg file might need to be signed still, as I'm seeing this: , when the installer was downloaded.
@leo_at_zapier Cheers!
Re: pricing, there will always be a version of Whist which is free, but for heavy cloud tabs usage we're planning to enact a subscription model
Re: DMG -- Oops, thank you! It seems the Intel build didn't sign properly, this will be fixed in the next release, apologies
?makers I’m curious about the privacy implications here; sending all my browsing data to a third party is worrisome, ofc, not that you don’t seem like a trustworthy lot. :)
@lee_fuhr Of course, privacy is something we think about daily and care a lot about both as markers and as users.
Whist is designed to be privacy-centric and protect the user at all cost. This is one of the reasons for the hybrid model. You decide which tabs are cloud tabs and which aren't, on a per-domain basis (i.e. you could set Figma to be cloud tabs, but keep your bank a local or incognito tab, for example). This allows you to only cloud tabs specific web applications which you are comfortable with running in the cloud. Moreover, not all web applications will gain major benefits from being cloud tabs (simple ones typically are fine as local tabs).
On top of this, Whist runs some pretty thorough security practices for encryption end-to-end on the cloud tabs streams and for storing configuration for cloud tabs. We follow industry-leading practices similar to what Bitwarden/1Password employ.
Lastly, we're planning to open-source a large part of our browser code as we go, so that users can go and inspect for themselves the code and what it does.
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@philippemnoel Interesting and fair. I'd like to see more of this published; your site is pretty barebones and doesn't address any of this side, and I imagine it'll be a common concern (and I want to see you — and this model — succeed).
Two other questions, then:
1. Brave is my main browser now. I have three profiles set up, each with its own piles of extensions, etc. I'd like Whist to pull all of that over, but on install, it didn't. Can it? How? Should I uninstall Whist and try again?
2. Got a code for me to try the cloud side of life?
@lee_fuhr Cheers, appreciate the kind words. Absolutely, we'll augment the content on our website to better explain Whist and the security/privacy guarantees.
1. So Whist is built on top of Brave, and as such the importer to bring in configuration from other browsers supports... well everything but Brave 🙃. On our next update, we'll augment it to also be able to import from Brave, and then you will be able to (sorry that it's not there yet).
2. Coming real soon, we're ramping things up and will follow up next week!
Hi everyone!
I want to thank you all for your support and @chrismessina for hunting us. After two years of hard work we're excited to come out of the woods. All credit goes to our amazing team for reaching this milestone.
We built Whist to solve a problem very familiar to those that work in tech, finance, sales, and design: modern web apps are becoming heavier and dragging down people's productivity. Over the last two years we've tested Whist with thousands of users and have built the true no-compromise browser: a browser with cloud tabs that does not sacrifice any of the performance or security of a local browser.
Today, we're releasing Whist for macOS. Because cloud tabs require a server geographically close to you, cloud tabs are temporarily locked behind an invite code. When you download Whist and create an account, you'll automatically be put on shortlist to receive an invite. We're onboarding new people every week!
If you're on another operating system, please put your name down here: https://whist.typeform.com/to/ES.... We'll be supporting Windows in a few weeks.
To learn more about Whist, we've written a blog post that dives into the product, at https://whist.com/blog.
Happy browsing!
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@chrismessina@philippemnoel Love the landing page design and product concept. Congrats on the launch. Discovered via Invincible Product Hunters Community (link in my bio). :)
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@philippemnoel “cloud tabs are temporarily locked behind an invite code.” So right now there’s nothing for users without an invite code that makes Whist better than Brave, right?
@anna_0x We've made a few UI/UX modifications on top of it to (we believe) improve Brave's UX, but yes it is essentially very similar to Brave until you enable cloud tabs
At first I was thinking "I love my Brave browser too much to switch" until I read the website. This is incredible.
What are the monetization plans for the future?
@abdlh Cheers! Yeah, Whist is built on top of Brave and incorporates all the nice features Brave has built/is building :)
Regarding monetization, the plan is always have a fully 100% free option, and to have a subscription model for a certain amount of cloud tab usage.
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What a cool product @philippemnoel and ?makers 🙌 can't wait to try it!
Quick question, what are the benefits of having the "accelerated" mode vs the "ultralight" - why would I choose to open only certain tabs in the cloud and not all of them?
Thank you 😊
@daisyintech Great question! There's a few reasons:
- First, cloud tabs require a strong Internet connection. If you're on-the-go in a low-WiFi zone, you might prefer to open standard tabs
- Also, not all websites will see noticeable improvements from cloud tabs. Light websites (say, a Wikipedia page) perform just fine on standard tabs, while heavy web apps will see drastic improvements on cloud tabs
Congrats on the launch! Looks very simple and powerful in some cases. I'm wondering, was it possible to just add a Whist add-on/extension to Chrome? What stopped you from doing that instead of making your own browser?
@maxslch Great question! While it might seem from the demo video that Whist is simply a Chrome extension, we had to significantly rework the Chrome rendering engine, Blink, to enable cloud tabs to work seamlessly. The extension primarily serves as a toggle to swap dynamically between using the standard Chrome renderer or the Whist renderer. Since this is very deep into the browser stack, it wasn't possible to do only as a Chrome extension.
If you're curious about some of the (wild) engineering problems we've had to solve to make Whist, we'll be writing some blog posts over the next few weeks. Follow us on Twitter @WhistHQ/@philippemnoel or check our blog periodically :)
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